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      NancyGee

      Looking at the monument, before I read the description, I was surprised that the Vietnamese would memorialize their torture in showing him hanging from the ceiling.

      Stephen Denny

      Reminds me a bit of the Persian empire displaying Crassus' vermillion-dyed and stuffed corpse like a chandellier in their diplomatic receiving hall.

      When you're the only superpower in the world, everyone revels in their little victories.

      william

      Did any leftist anywhere, any time, during that era protest the treatment of American pows? Not with the shrill insistency that they protest waterboarding, I mean did they ever even mention it?

      Roger von Oech

      Nancy: He's showing surrender. Actually McCain was too badly hurt to do anything like that. The VN were barely able to get him out of his aircraft.

      Stephen: Well, Crassus was a real prick. Of course in 1967, there were 2 superpowers.

      William: Not that I recall.

      Tom Grey

      If McCain wants to win in November, he's going to have to tell the truth about Vietnam:
      Nixon won in 1973 (with Paris Peace Accords!), that the N. Viet commies knew were a lie (their guy didn't accept the Nobel Peace Prize, Henry K did).
      The Dem Party of the USA then voted to lose -- by stopping the possibility of enforcing the Peace (in 1974) with US military, by cutting funds to our proxy allies the S. Vietnamese (in 74-75), which was followed by N. Viet commie victory.

      As the anti-war (anti-US victory) folk expected, and thus supported.

      David

      What makes John McCain a hero?

      He was flying bombing missions over
      Vietnam and they shot him down,
      to prevent him from killing their people.

      What was McCain doing in Vietnam?

      baboy

      What makes John McCain a hero?

      He was flying bombing missions over
      Vietnam and they shot him down,
      to prevent him from killing their people.

      What was McCain doing in Vietnam?

      He was dealing with those who wanted to, and thanks to Democrats succeeded in, killing off those who didn't want to become prisoners in their own country to Marxism/Stalinism, a killer of people much worse than Hitlerism.

      Next, preferably intelligent question, please.

      Bobo

      What makes John McCain a hero?

      He was flying bombing missions over
      Vietnam and they shot him down,
      to prevent him from killing their people.

      What was McCain doing in Vietnam?


      How stupid does this get?
      What makes him a hero? 1) You try to fly in the heavily defended environment of Hanoi without shitting your pants..Then go back and fly 22 more missions.. 2) He was tortured as a POW. He was offered the chance to go home ahead of the other POWs and refused, for which he was tortured some more. That makes him a hero to me!

      What was McCain doing in Vietnam? He was fulfilling his DUTY as a Naval Officer who swore an oath to "...support and defend the Constitution of the United States..." The President, Johnson, ordered him to bomb Vietnam.

      OH

      Conservatives: WRONG about Iraq

      Conservatives: WRONG about Vietnam

      pseudotsuga

      Liberals like OH:
      WRONG about the "Surge." (How long did it take Obama to finally admit that it was indeed succeeding?)
      WRONG about Al Qaeda in Iraq (not to mention Iran's dirty fingers.)
      Progressives: dumber than a post about nearly everything else...

      Dark Lady

      Well, no one ever said McCain was not a survivor.
      DL

      Veteran Raver

      McCain was shot down from flying 1000 ft too low which makes the A-4 less able to make hard evasive turns to avoid SAM's. McCain had crashed a T-2 trainer jet when he was flying too low and his wing tip struck the ground; and a A-4 from hitting a low power line, again flying too low. The Navy wanted to give him a low rating thus ending his career however the USAF needed A-4 pilots and his father was an Admiral.
      Yes, you may call him a hero but at Brooks Army Hospital there were amputees and men with parts of their skull blown away on the ward (Ward 3-C, aka "Stump Ward")to which I was medivaced (I have a combat related severe disability but I do not call myself a hero. I saw men with massive stiching going across their body and men with huge q-tips where they once had a limb. They are heros as well as being democrats, minorities and even a few gays (at least one combat doctor). So don't get too self-rightous!

      Mike campbell

      McCain was & uis a War Criminal who should have been executed.

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