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Cam Beck

This is one of those subjects I've always wanted to delve more deeply into. I have a book on it, but I haven't gotten around to reading it yet.

The Teaching Company courses seem one of the best ways to get started.

I downloaded "The Great Debate: Advocates and Opponents of the American Constitution" from TTC a few weeks ago, so that's next on my list. However, on your recommendation, I may have to move this course up.

Free to think, free to believe

I studied Athens and Sparta some years ago and have since astonished my friends by saying that Athenian Democracy was, basically, an engine of war - closer to today when voters had to be of a 'certain wealth', you could argue that British democracy was as well. A quick glance at The Old Empire may prove interesting in this light...

Now who do our governments govern and what do they produce - war or peace?

Mario Vellandi

I listened to Kenneth Harl's course on the history of Turkey and Mesopotamia - very interesting! His voice is clear and makes you feel like you're right in the classroom with a great professor. I'll have to look up this title.

Roger von Oech

Cam: You're right about the Teaching Company: they produce an excellent product. I'll have to look into the program you just downloaded.

Free to Think: "Athenian Democracy was, basically, an engine of war" Yeah, I think I'd agree with that. The Athenian Empire was founded on the Delian League which Athens created with a number of island and Asian Minor city states as a self-defense alliance against the Persians after 479 BC. They were able to milk that treaty/alliance for considerable financial gain.

One of the reasons that Athens was so admired by British classicists and historians in the 19th and 20th centuries is that the British saw many similarities between themselves and 5th BC Athens: both had empires and were maritime powers.

Mario: I agree with you about Professor Harl. I'm looking forward to some of his other programs.

Doug van Orsow

My Teaching Company user forum has some interesting comments like these by one of the reviewers of Kenneth Harl's course:

Doug van Orsow

Sorry, that last link to the forum on Kenneth Harl's Peloponnesian War course should be:

To post you just need to register at:

I also hope to get the course in a few days to join in on all the fun.

Doug van Orsow

J Heimerl

Star Wars The Clone War is a redux of The Chladice episode of the Pelopennesian Wars. The clones, (hoplites ) even wore Spartan helmets. Fascinating.

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